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He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.Felous1Just what I was thinking. Then again, it's surprising how many Japanese players I run into playing Team Elimination in Lost Planet. Observation: It's FAR easier to find one such Japanese gamer in a Team Elimination match than just normal Elimination.
He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.Felous1For a game like VF it probably does
He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.Felous1indeed it is an assumption. they could just be worn out on Virtua Fighter 5 out there. but how well do Tekken home ports sell? How about VF4 sales? maybe there's some sort of measuring stick we can compare to.
[QUOTE="Felous1"]He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.jvonraderJust what I was thinking. Then again, it's surprising how many Japanese players I run into playing Team Elimination in Lost Planet. Observation: It's FAR easier to find one such Japanese gamer in a Team Elimination match than just normal Elimination. they're also well represented in Chromehounds and Ridge Racer 7.
i know for sure as heck i aint buying it if it doesnt have online for 360audioaxesI'm also torn. I don't really have anyone that can play on my level, so my friends usually prefer to play something else with me. for me, that means VF5 collects dust unless I want to play computer opponents. we ALL know how fun that is. about as fun as playing Unreal Tournament's single player. :|
But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.jackassultimadid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community.
But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.jackassultimaAgreed. I haven't been inside an arcade for probably 8-10 years.
But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.jackassultimaIt's totally different. Just because arcades aren't as popular here doesn't mean the lack of online play in VF5 is a moot point. It will totally effect sales. The point is Japanese gamers like human opponents (and it seems if they don't know the person they're playing against, even better). The same goes here in the States. AI can take you only so far.
[QUOTE="audioaxes"]i know for sure as heck i aint buying it if it doesnt have online for 360Dreams-VisionsI'm also torn. I don't really have anyone that can play on my level, so my friends usually prefer to play something else with me. for me, that means VF5 collects dust unless I want to play computer opponents. we ALL know how fun that is. about as fun as playing Unreal Tournament's single player. :| I'm the same way. I can't really get into fighters because I don't have enough friends that play them, or a lot of time for gathering a few buddies for gaming sessions. The only reason I picked up DoA 4 and spent some good time learning it is because I play online. And for the most part its very responsive, though there are the occasional laggers...
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="audioaxes"]i know for sure as heck i aint buying it if it doesnt have online for 360MyopicCanadianI'm also torn. I don't really have anyone that can play on my level, so my friends usually prefer to play something else with me. for me, that means VF5 collects dust unless I want to play computer opponents. we ALL know how fun that is. about as fun as playing Unreal Tournament's single player. :| I'm the same way. I can't really get into fighters because I don't have enough friends that play them, or a lot of time for gathering a few buddies for gaming sessions. The only reason I picked up DoA 4 and spent some good time learning it is because I play online. And for the most part its very responsive, though there are the occasional laggers... we're brothers from another mother.
[QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visionsdid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.jackassultimadid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all.
[QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visionsdid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses!
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.musicalmacdid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses! you can bet your sweet *ss that the next iterrations of Tekken, Soul Calibur and DoA will all be ONLINE.
[QUOTE="Felous1"]He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.Dreams-Visionsindeed it is an assumption. they could just be worn out on Virtua Fighter 5 out there. but how well do Tekken home ports sell? How about VF4 sales? maybe there's some sort of measuring stick we can compare to. How can you say that online=no buy? You really think that if I was a VF fanboy I would say NO to the next in line for the mere reason, "THERE'S NO ONRINE=NO BUY" Stop reading Kotaku for the love of God those guys just spin facts for sensationalism. sales low? may be it's because the hardware sales of PS3 are low...
I sadly have to approve of this ownage. Like I've been saying no online = no buy for this kind of game. I still might scoop it, but the fact that I'm debating picking up a quality AAA game or not is a big deal (because I wasn't alone in that feeling). The bottom line here is that no matter how good a game is, in the nextGen of expectations, people should be able to play online. especially fighters/sports games that would leave you having to play crumby computer AI. I left that life years ago when XBLive came out. Consistent challengers every hour of the damn day.
Looks like SEGA may *have* to find a way to squeeze online into at least the 360 version to ensure they make some decent sales. Otherwise it won't be nearly as successful as it could be, IMO. a VF5 game online would last gamers YEARS. an off-line VF5 will last many gamers only months (or until the wellspring of decent local competitors and friends dries up).
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I agree.
No Online = No Buy for me when it comes to multiplayer games for me.
At least they have Online in the arcades. What do I get. A CPU who does the same damn cheap move, and I punish the hell out of it. No ones is on my level in fighters. I drive 20 miles to my nearest Aracade, and it doesn't even have VF, Tekken, or SF in it (I go for the cotton candy). Tournaments are held like once every 2 months. Simple saying we need online here more than the Japanese.shungokustasuwait wait...VF5 is online in arcades in Japan?/!
[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visionsdid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses! you can bet your sweet *ss that the next iterrations of Tekken, Soul Calibur and DoA will all be ONLINE. No they won't, and it's going to be for the same reasons as VF. Really, most of the people screaming "NO ONLINE=NO BUY" aren't interested in the game in the first place. I don't know about you, but I'd happily sacrifice online if having online will compromise the gameplay. Also, VF5 is NOT online in arcades, those are replays.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Felous1"]He's assuming online is having an impact on sales in Japan.FABurchindeed it is an assumption. they could just be worn out on Virtua Fighter 5 out there. but how well do Tekken home ports sell? How about VF4 sales? maybe there's some sort of measuring stick we can compare to. How can you say that online=no buy? You really think that if I was a VF fanboy I would say NO to the next in line for the mere reason, "THERE'S NO ONRINE=NO BUY" Stop reading Kotaku for the love of God those guys just spin facts for sensationalism. sales low? may be it's because the hardware sales of PS3 are low... how can I say no online = no buy? because I know a lot of consumers are just like me. they WANT to play a great fighter but lose interest quickly because of a lack of quality human opponents to play against. online play has caused DoA4 to last me 14 months. VF4 (PS2) lasted me all of about 4 weeks before the homies lost interest, relegating me to playing against the CPU. like in all fighters, playing against the CPU is not very enjoyable or enriching, so we move on to other games. online play = instant buy. no online = lots of pause and hesistation. I just don't know if I'll ever get my monies' worth.
[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]At least they have Online in the arcades. What do I get. A CPU who does the same damn cheap move, and I punish the hell out of it. No ones is on my level in fighters. I drive 20 miles to my nearest Aracade, and it doesn't even have VF, Tekken, or SF in it (I go for the cotton candy). Tournaments are held like once every 2 months. Simple saying we need online here more than the Japanese.Dreams-Visionswait wait...VF5 is online in arcades in Japan?/! of course. The whole arcade there are online.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]At least they have Online in the arcades. What do I get. A CPU who does the same damn cheap move, and I punish the hell out of it. No ones is on my level in fighters. I drive 20 miles to my nearest Aracade, and it doesn't even have VF, Tekken, or SF in it (I go for the cotton candy). Tournaments are held like once every 2 months. Simple saying we need online here more than the Japanese.shungokustasuwait wait...VF5 is online in arcades in Japan?/! of course. The whole arcade there are online. Agian, VF5 is NOT online in Japanese arcades. I have no idea where you're pulling this from. What you are seeing are replays from fights, that is all.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.SockPuppetHyrendid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses! you can bet your sweet *ss that the next iterrations of Tekken, Soul Calibur and DoA will all be ONLINE. No they won't, and it's going to be for the same reasons as VF. Really, most of the people screaming "NO ONLINE=NO BUY" aren't interested in the game in the first place. I don't know about you, but I'd happily sacrifice online if having online will compromise the gameplay. Also, VF5 is NOT online in arcades, those are replays. stop being a damn SEGA apologist. you're eating their excuses up like an Ethopian would steak. just because their developers couldn't get it done in time for the PS3's release doesn't mean that other devs don't have their *hit together. those games will all have online play. It'll be fine. It'll prolong the life of those games 10 fold. EXPECT it.
The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.jackassultima
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
[QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.LosDaddie
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
EXACTLY. which is why online would have been such a big thing for this game. this game would have lasted YEARS with online play. YEARS.[QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.LosDaddie
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
Have you played VF4? Becaus eyou wouldnt be talking like that otherwise. VF4 has THE best AI in ANY fighting game. Mainly because they are based on real players.[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.Dreams-Visions
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
EXACTLY. which is why online would have been such a big thing for this game. this game would have lasted YEARS with online play. YEARS. Look at Halo 2. Would we still be playing that without Live?...[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.musicalmac
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
EXACTLY. which is why online would have been such a big thing for this game. this game would have lasted YEARS with online play. YEARS. Look at Halo 2. Would we still be playing that without Live?... hell no. Halo 2 would have lasted me maybe 2 go-rounds in the SP. As it stands, I have yet to finish HALF of the single player. I've been playing Halo 2 since launch day. I've easily put in 1,300+ hours into it. online = win. but it's just so important for fighters and sports games.[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.SockPuppetHyren
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
Have you played VF4? Becaus eyou wouldnt be talking like that otherwise. VF4 has THE best AI in ANY fighting game. Mainly because they are based on real players. AI will NEVER replicate the experiences and enjoyment of playing a flesh and blood person in person or online. You wouldn't be so apathetic to the idea if you had played DoA4. online play is very entertaining. it's like standing in an arcade line like back in the day when Mortal Kombat II and Killer Instinct were the *hit.Really, most of the people screaming "NO ONLINE=NO BUY" aren't interested in the game in the first place. SockPuppetHyren
I would buy VF5 at launch if it had online. I really enjoyed VF4: Evo when I rented it. And I would've bought VF4 if it had online.
Stop being a Sega apologist. Online should be mandatory for multiplayer games. This is the next-gen.
[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visionsdid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses! you can bet your sweet *ss that the next iterrations of Tekken, Soul Calibur and DoA will all be ONLINE. No they won't, and it's going to be for the same reasons as VF. Really, most of the people screaming "NO ONLINE=NO BUY" aren't interested in the game in the first place. I don't know about you, but I'd happily sacrifice online if having online will compromise the gameplay. Also, VF5 is NOT online in arcades, those are replays. stop being a damn SEGA apologist. you're eating their excuses up like an Ethopian would steak. just because their developers couldn't get it done in time for the PS3's release doesn't mean that other devs don't have their *hit together. those games will all have online play. It'll be fine. It'll prolong the life of those games 10 fold. EXPECT it. Well, I apoligize for trusting the people who actually spent time MAKING the game and not some guy on a forum who's only played he game for a few weeks. People have ATUALLy stated facts as to why VF5 and other fighters like it can't be placed online because of fundemental gameplay changes. VF games rely heavily on precise, down to the frame command input. So much so that lag would literally destroy the game for it's target audiance. Lag causes the frame inputs to change, which results in moves not being as responsive as normal. If you dont beleive me, why dont you try e-mailing SEGA about it.
[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.Dreams-Visions
Awesome single player? :lol:
Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.
Have you played VF4? Becaus eyou wouldnt be talking like that otherwise. VF4 has THE best AI in ANY fighting game. Mainly because they are based on real players. AI will NEVER replicate the experiences and enjoyment of playing a flesh and blood person in person or online. You wouldn't be so apathetic to the idea if you had played DoA4. online play is very entertaining. it's like standing in an arcade line like back in the day when Mortal Kombat II and Killer Instinct were the *hit.Agreed.
Humans > CPU.
There simply is nothing better than having a real human(s) to play against. People need to stop being Sega apologists.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.SockPuppetHyrendid Westerners EVER really open up to this series in droves? I highly doubt it. And no online play successfully cuts the opportunity for the series to grow more marketshare off at the knees, IMO. I can tell you that it won't be a popular 360 game. not because it's not good..but because people want to play ONLINE on the 360. Unless its an RPG or something, online has to at least be an option. but maybe I'm mischaracterizing the 360 online community. The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online. you believe that only because those are the excuses they're trying to spoon-feed you. I'm sorry man, but excuses are only excuses. If they can't do it RIGHT...then they need to shove the game back in the oven or put it in the freezer until they CAN do it right. no online will = no buy for a huge number of people. 360 owners will not line up for this one. at. all. I'll probably end up getting it regardless of online play, because I've never been a big fan of Dead of Alive series. But it definately hampers the amount I'll play it. Playing with friends is fun, but only up to a point. I'll be sad with no online multi. And thank you- abolish excuses! you can bet your sweet *ss that the next iterrations of Tekken, Soul Calibur and DoA will all be ONLINE. No they won't, and it's going to be for the same reasons as VF. Really, most of the people screaming "NO ONLINE=NO BUY" aren't interested in the game in the first place. I don't know about you, but I'd happily sacrifice online if having online will compromise the gameplay. Also, VF5 is NOT online in arcades, those are replays. stop being a damn SEGA apologist. you're eating their excuses up like an Ethopian would steak. just because their developers couldn't get it done in time for the PS3's release doesn't mean that other devs don't have their *hit together. those games will all have online play. It'll be fine. It'll prolong the life of those games 10 fold. EXPECT it. Well, I apoligize for trusting the people who actually spent time MAKING the game and not some guy on a forum who's only played he game for a few weeks. People have ATUALLy stated facts as to why VF5 and other fighters like it can't be placed online because of fundemental gameplay changes. VF games rely heavily on precise, down to the frame command input. So much so that lag would literally destroy the game for it's target audiance. Lag causes the frame inputs to change, which results in moves not being as responsive as normal. If you dont beleive me, why dont you try e-mailing SEGA about it. apology accepted.
Online isn't a big deal to me.I have lots of friends to play versus mode against...everyone assuming that no online is the reason why people in Japan is not buyin it..but i dont see it as the main problem at all..xbox360 version will not have online either..im guessing it will sell twice as worst..I think over here in NA Virtual Fighters 5 will sell thousands....beyondgamezthat's fair. as I've said, Kotaku could just be wrong in their assumptions. but what do you believe is the reason for the low sales?
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